My dad gave me his password manager master password and his laptop password. I added both to my password manager. He tracks my mom’s most important passwords in the password manager, too.
We also talked about setting up a family account and sharing in his password manager, but it hasn’t become a priority yet vs the other late life planning stuff.
You used the plural "passwords", what makes you think there are multiple?
The people I have in mind sometimes get confused with basic iPhone functionality like Maps and CarPlay. I would think 1password is the solution but honestly a physical notebook is probably more their speed.
I primarily use the built-in password manager on my iPhone. It’s very convenient; besides storing passwords, it allows for quick autofill when logging in and supports passkeys and 2FA.
I think so 1password works fine. They find it easier. I have few who even keep a diary with password of few websites they use. They just don't trust digital haha
Passkeys are also fine imho, I use Apple Passwords and share passkeys with various groups (partner, immediate family, extended family) for various systems, depending on access audience.
Also, consider a legacy contact if you're in the Apple ecosystem. For those who rely on me as an unofficial trustee and guardian, I have them add me as their legacy contact, and I then print out multiple copies of the legacy contact key page, laminate it, and distribute it physically (it's a one page QR code with some details on it). It can also be bound between Apple accounts. A death certificate will be required to access a legacy contact.
every prompt to set it up indicates otherwise, they really really want you to set up biometric auth, however the gov't can make you provide biometric unlock, whereas they cannot compel a password or real "passkey" (pin)
My grandparents did this, but didn’t realise that it would be useful to write down what each password was for. They also didn’t realise that the spelling of a password was important.
lol well yeah. This book has fields for website, and A-Z legends, so presumably you put your Amazon password in the A section, and your hacker news password in the H section, and it's useful.
But I've been helping my MIL with some tech stuff lately. She signed up for Verizon 5G home internet, and cancelled her whole Comcast/Xfinity account. And was then surprised to find she wouldn't have cable TV anymore. :P
Also, Verizon coverage in her unit is terrible which she should know because she has them for her cell phone. But I guess she never realized that the internet was good at home because of the wifi from cable. sigh
I built VALT, a chrome extension to manage their passwords.
https://spottedmarley.com/valt
That page is written in easy to understand old-people-friendly prose (and has a few missing screenshots).
A paper notepad with stickies all tucked inside and stored in a safe. Then I try to get them MFA'd.
They ain't going to figure out or tolerate the likes of what 1Password has become. Anything on their Windows PC is going to get pwned.
My dad gave me his password manager master password and his laptop password. I added both to my password manager. He tracks my mom’s most important passwords in the password manager, too.
We also talked about setting up a family account and sharing in his password manager, but it hasn’t become a priority yet vs the other late life planning stuff.
You used the plural "passwords", what makes you think there are multiple?
The people I have in mind sometimes get confused with basic iPhone functionality like Maps and CarPlay. I would think 1password is the solution but honestly a physical notebook is probably more their speed.
I primarily use the built-in password manager on my iPhone. It’s very convenient; besides storing passwords, it allows for quick autofill when logging in and supports passkeys and 2FA.
I encourage mum to use the built in one in Chrome as that tends to pop up anyway. I tried setting up Bitwarden but it didn't get used.
I think so 1password works fine. They find it easier. I have few who even keep a diary with password of few websites they use. They just don't trust digital haha
I recommend they get a physical key (yubikey), it's more intuitive or natural for the pre-digital-first generations
Can you use yubikey as a primary login mechanism? How?
Otherwise having same password on every service doesn’t look secure, and what would you need to do if it’s compromised.
Recommend two, one for them, one for you. Add both to all accounts. Upon death, you won't have to search for theirs.
good call on the two, I actually have two personally, one for primary email, one for all the other logins, so now we are at four keys
Passkeys are also fine imho, I use Apple Passwords and share passkeys with various groups (partner, immediate family, extended family) for various systems, depending on access audience.
Also, consider a legacy contact if you're in the Apple ecosystem. For those who rely on me as an unofficial trustee and guardian, I have them add me as their legacy contact, and I then print out multiple copies of the legacy contact key page, laminate it, and distribute it physically (it's a one page QR code with some details on it). It can also be bound between Apple accounts. A death certificate will be required to access a legacy contact.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/102631
https://support.apple.com/en-us/103128
I refuse to use any biometric based auth, so passkeys are a nope for me
laminated physical backup codes, you are a hero among peasants friend!
You don't need biometric authentication for passkeys, though.
every prompt to set it up indicates otherwise, they really really want you to set up biometric auth, however the gov't can make you provide biometric unlock, whereas they cannot compel a password or real "passkey" (pin)
... except if they've been required to change an expired password.
What a great idea! I never would’ve thought of a Yubikey for this
Write it down in the book:
https://www.amazon.com/What-Fuck-Password-Other-Remember/dp/...
Keep the book in the office by the laptop.
My grandparents did this, but didn’t realise that it would be useful to write down what each password was for. They also didn’t realise that the spelling of a password was important.
I don’t even…
lol well yeah. This book has fields for website, and A-Z legends, so presumably you put your Amazon password in the A section, and your hacker news password in the H section, and it's useful.
But I've been helping my MIL with some tech stuff lately. She signed up for Verizon 5G home internet, and cancelled her whole Comcast/Xfinity account. And was then surprised to find she wouldn't have cable TV anymore. :P
Also, Verizon coverage in her unit is terrible which she should know because she has them for her cell phone. But I guess she never realized that the internet was good at home because of the wifi from cable. sigh