Here he says that Epoch is "developing" a private test set that OpenAI doesn't have access to, but elsewhere Epoch strongly implied that this already existed. This kind of makes me lean towards "Epoch AI lied" instead of "Epoch AI got played." (Even the coauthors weren't informed about the funding, so Epoch does not deserve a presumption of good faith.)
I guess the real question: o3 was able to solve 25% of Frontier problems, so were these the problems whose solutions OpenAI had access to? If so, then that score is meaningless and dishonest.
I think it's more useful to assume everyone else is less blatantly deceptive than OpenAI, at least, so there's some hierarchy of trustworthiness to help lead you to the truth.
> They also made a verbal agreement with OpenAI that prohibits the company from using the materials to train their models
Hilarious.
Elliot Glazer seems to have been caught in a contradiction: https://xcancel.com/ElliotGlazer/status/1880809468616950187
Here he says that Epoch is "developing" a private test set that OpenAI doesn't have access to, but elsewhere Epoch strongly implied that this already existed. This kind of makes me lean towards "Epoch AI lied" instead of "Epoch AI got played." (Even the coauthors weren't informed about the funding, so Epoch does not deserve a presumption of good faith.)
I guess the real question: o3 was able to solve 25% of Frontier problems, so were these the problems whose solutions OpenAI had access to? If so, then that score is meaningless and dishonest.
[dupe] Discussion on source:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42763231
Related https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42763231
Cant trust anyone, ever.
I think it's more useful to assume everyone else is less blatantly deceptive than OpenAI, at least, so there's some hierarchy of trustworthiness to help lead you to the truth.