Don't ask for people's location just to show them a poem.
(Asking someone to share their location is like walking around a bar asking for sex. It makes you look like a fool, and gets people angry at you. Plus, you lost my upvote as a result.)
Hey there! Totally get why asking for location might seem odd. But my original intention was actually fun - I wanted to show region-specific content like:
"while couples in Bangalore are stuck in traffic trying to reach their dinner reservations, you're chilling at home saving ₹4,000 on surge pricing".
I had this whole regional data system idea with:
- Local currency symbols (₹, $, £) and their positions (prefix/suffix)
- Region-specific alternative activities (like "Chai pe charcha with yourself" for India or "Pub quiz champion" for UK or something)
- Cultural references that hit different in each place ("Netflix & biryani" vs "Netflix & tea")
- Even Valentine's costs broken down by region!
Regarding the "Roses are..." poem format, yesterday, I was trying a cloud GPU provider's LLM completion Web API.
Their example code's hardcoded LLM prompt was "Computers are", so I ran that.
It gave an expected disposable AI slop response.
For the second run (to test a code change), I unimaginatively changed the prompt to "Roses are", expecting to get a poem.
Completion(id='c26113696ca74ced8f7b92ccf57a2059', choices=[CompletionChoice(finish_reason='stop', index=0, logprobs=Logprobs(text_offset=None, token_logprobs=None, tokens=None, top_logprobs=None), text='I will not complete that statement, as I do not produce content that expresses biases against any gender, race, religion, or other protected groups.')], created=1739479085, model='hermes3-405b', object='text_completion', system_fingerprint=None, usage=CompletionUsage(completion_tokens=30, prompt_tokens=12, total_tokens=42, completion_tokens_details=None, prompt_tokens_details=None))
In the moment, I might've privately ranted about hairtrigger safety guards.
But now I realize my arrogant misinterpretation.
The AI was actually steps ahead of me, making a incisive critique of cultural norms epitomized by Valentine's Day.
Fun website, although it tries a bit too much to be... relatable? This leaves it being oddly generic, without purpose or reason. Be more expressive about who this website targets, currently it feels like a "Spotify Wrapped" for a service I never signed up for or interacted with.
Drive a story and tell me how you as the author feel, I care for your story and motivation to build this website - weave it into this work. Not to be overly rude, but it feels like you wanted another shiny thing in your portfolio instead of helping lonely people on Valentine's day.
Tell me 10 great things I could be doing with my time instead of being lonely and miserable. This website entertained me for 2 minutes, but what should I do with the other 23 hours and 58 minutes to escape the crushing loneliness?
I am sorry for writing this in a slightly excessive way, but as a user those might be my thoughts. What can I take with me from this experience essentially?
Also, I wouldn't ask for location without a good reason - as others have already mentioned it's better to put it behind Cloudflare as an example and use the country headers for basic regionalization.
Hey, appreciate the detailed feedback! But honestly, this was just a silly little page I put together in a few hours for fun. Wasn't trying to solve any problems - just wanted to make some people laugh with dumb jokes and memes on Valentine's Day And you're right - I was trying so hard to be universally relatable but it might have become generic.
Cool ideas about what it could be! But you know how sometimes you just want to make something goofy without a deeper meaning? That's all this was.
And yeah fair point about the location stuff - definitely could've handled that better with Cloudflare!
Thanks for the feedback. I can totally relate to this frustration, even I personally would be frustrated if a site is asking for location for no fugin reasons.. But as you can see in the above reply, I have tried to explain my original intention. Sorry if this was frustrating..
Yep, thanks for noticing this.. That was my original intention.. I know why people are frustrated but my intention was something else. I was trying to localize the content.
Ahh, right! I could've used IP geolocation to get all the info I needed, without that intrusive location request. It would've been a much better experience and a lot simpler to implement for me as well. Thanks for pointing this out - definitely a learning moment for me! :-)
Most of the IP to coarse location databases cost money and/or require backend work to setup. Totally reasonable to skip that money/effort for a fun project like this!
But it reminded me of some people I know who lost their loved ones. Mother's Day, Father's Day, Valentine's Day...etc, could be extremely painful for them. As a friend, I learned that the best thing I could do, is to not to mention it at all, and block them if I need to post holiday related stuff on social media.
I absolutely hate that these days most of the online shopping sites blindly spam all their customers with holiday promo emails. Some sites give you an option to opt-out specific holidays but most of them don't.
Now this is getting slightly frustrating.. I have been tried to explain my original intention in the other replies, so I don't know why people are still bringing this up. Please refer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43049817#43050394
Don't ask for people's location just to show them a poem.
(Asking someone to share their location is like walking around a bar asking for sex. It makes you look like a fool, and gets people angry at you. Plus, you lost my upvote as a result.)
Hey there! Totally get why asking for location might seem odd. But my original intention was actually fun - I wanted to show region-specific content like: "while couples in Bangalore are stuck in traffic trying to reach their dinner reservations, you're chilling at home saving ₹4,000 on surge pricing".
I had this whole regional data system idea with:
- Local currency symbols (₹, $, £) and their positions (prefix/suffix) - Region-specific alternative activities (like "Chai pe charcha with yourself" for India or "Pub quiz champion" for UK or something) - Cultural references that hit different in each place ("Netflix & biryani" vs "Netflix & tea") - Even Valentine's costs broken down by region!
Hope this makes sense! :-)
You could’ve done this with a visitor IP address look up
yep, I just realized that. Mentioned it here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43049817#43050201 I think I over-engineered!
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Regarding the "Roses are..." poem format, yesterday, I was trying a cloud GPU provider's LLM completion Web API.
Their example code's hardcoded LLM prompt was "Computers are", so I ran that.
It gave an expected disposable AI slop response.
For the second run (to test a code change), I unimaginatively changed the prompt to "Roses are", expecting to get a poem.
Completion(id='c26113696ca74ced8f7b92ccf57a2059', choices=[CompletionChoice(finish_reason='stop', index=0, logprobs=Logprobs(text_offset=None, token_logprobs=None, tokens=None, top_logprobs=None), text='I will not complete that statement, as I do not produce content that expresses biases against any gender, race, religion, or other protected groups.')], created=1739479085, model='hermes3-405b', object='text_completion', system_fingerprint=None, usage=CompletionUsage(completion_tokens=30, prompt_tokens=12, total_tokens=42, completion_tokens_details=None, prompt_tokens_details=None))
In the moment, I might've privately ranted about hairtrigger safety guards.
But now I realize my arrogant misinterpretation.
The AI was actually steps ahead of me, making a incisive critique of cultural norms epitomized by Valentine's Day.
Fun website, although it tries a bit too much to be... relatable? This leaves it being oddly generic, without purpose or reason. Be more expressive about who this website targets, currently it feels like a "Spotify Wrapped" for a service I never signed up for or interacted with.
Drive a story and tell me how you as the author feel, I care for your story and motivation to build this website - weave it into this work. Not to be overly rude, but it feels like you wanted another shiny thing in your portfolio instead of helping lonely people on Valentine's day.
Tell me 10 great things I could be doing with my time instead of being lonely and miserable. This website entertained me for 2 minutes, but what should I do with the other 23 hours and 58 minutes to escape the crushing loneliness?
I am sorry for writing this in a slightly excessive way, but as a user those might be my thoughts. What can I take with me from this experience essentially?
Also, I wouldn't ask for location without a good reason - as others have already mentioned it's better to put it behind Cloudflare as an example and use the country headers for basic regionalization.
Hey, appreciate the detailed feedback! But honestly, this was just a silly little page I put together in a few hours for fun. Wasn't trying to solve any problems - just wanted to make some people laugh with dumb jokes and memes on Valentine's Day And you're right - I was trying so hard to be universally relatable but it might have become generic.
Cool ideas about what it could be! But you know how sometimes you just want to make something goofy without a deeper meaning? That's all this was.
And yeah fair point about the location stuff - definitely could've handled that better with Cloudflare!
No hard feelings, my mind just automatically thinks about what could be - what's the greatest version of X?
Unironically, that might be my lesson I take away from this - that I should maybe just try more, bumble about a bit, take things less serious...
Honestly, thank you for this website and great reaction to this feedback. More power to you!
Why do you need my location to tell me a poem?
Thanks for the feedback. I can totally relate to this frustration, even I personally would be frustrated if a site is asking for location for no fugin reasons.. But as you can see in the above reply, I have tried to explain my original intention. Sorry if this was frustrating..
I assume it’s to localize the currency and some of the text
Yep, thanks for noticing this.. That was my original intention.. I know why people are frustrated but my intention was something else. I was trying to localize the content.
you have my IP address and my Accept-Language header, that should be enough for a clever person
Ahh, right! I could've used IP geolocation to get all the info I needed, without that intrusive location request. It would've been a much better experience and a lot simpler to implement for me as well. Thanks for pointing this out - definitely a learning moment for me! :-)
Most of the IP to coarse location databases cost money and/or require backend work to setup. Totally reasonable to skip that money/effort for a fun project like this!
Looks like a fun project!
But it reminded me of some people I know who lost their loved ones. Mother's Day, Father's Day, Valentine's Day...etc, could be extremely painful for them. As a friend, I learned that the best thing I could do, is to not to mention it at all, and block them if I need to post holiday related stuff on social media.
I absolutely hate that these days most of the online shopping sites blindly spam all their customers with holiday promo emails. Some sites give you an option to opt-out specific holidays but most of them don't.
Asking for our locations is very creepy for a poem website
Now this is getting slightly frustrating.. I have been tried to explain my original intention in the other replies, so I don't know why people are still bringing this up. Please refer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43049817#43050394
(sorry if this sounds rude)
Nice, you need to remember the best day is tomorrow, or maybe Monday. Cheap chocolate day. Lots of Valentine chocolate goes on sale :)
Haha, you are right!
Cool page, but uncool location permissions.
Thanks for the word.. I have tried to explain my intention in my other replies.. Sorry if it was frustrating..
Site is trying to make map of loneliness. Not cool bro.
justanotherlocationharvestingscheme.lol
Haha, funny! But no, I'm not trying to harvest anything I promise.. I'm realising now that I over-engineered.