Every service on the Internet knows its users' IP addresses. It's a very short trip for an interested party to convert an IP address to whatever it is that IP geolocation means today in 2025, where we even have things like RFC 8805 that seek to promote the active dissemination of that information.
What aspects of this blanket reality serve to make ChatGPT uniquely concerning, or even interesting?
It's not transparent and, in some instances, leads to worse outputs. ChatGPT keeps telling me "since you are in Ireland, you can ..." when I'm not in Ireland, that's just what my VPN is set to.
At least on a normal site, it will usually ask "You're currently visiting the UK site, do you want to switch to our Irish/EU site"? Here, it just makes the assumption with no indication of it happening.
Almost every personalized site does this. I just changed my VPN to Finland from the U.S. Results from a spot check of sites:
Google will automatically show me results in Finnish, personalized to what Finnish users typically search for. It does have a sidebar to prompt me to switch back to English, but that's because I put in an English query.
Netflix shows me the content that's available in Finland, along with recommendations for top movies in Finland. No option to switch back to U.S.
Reddit, when logged out, defaults me to content from r/arkisuomi, r/suomi, r/finland, and then the default subreddits. Also no indication that they've changed their recommendations.
Expedia defaults me to the U.S, but with a banner to switch to expedia.fi instead.
Zillow has no personalized content on their logged-out homepage, but if I try to search for "Current location" it will show me homes in Finland. Same with Redfin.
Yelp defaults my language to Finnish and shows me recommendations for Helsinki.
Isn't this a large part of why people get VPNs, so they can see what content looks like for visitors from other countries? I got one mainly so I could watch Canadian Netflix and so travel sites would stop charging me California prices (they often price-discriminate based on average incomes in your region).
The Rust install page says this when I load it up on iOS:
> It looks like you’re running macOS, Linux, or another Unix-like OS. To download Rustup and install Rust, run the following in your terminal, then follow the on-screen instructions. See "Other Installation Methods" if you are on Windows.
Why are you worried GPT knows your location?
If you use any Apple stuff, it knows your exact location. Android is the same. Windows knows the exact location also.
So why would not GPT know that? Most webpages know your location, but since they also know your IP, they know in where you are, the city name at least, within a few KM.
You are talking about the location. You should be worried about using Apple, Android or Windows because they know a lot more than that.
update: forgot to mention that if you any of antisocial networks like Facebook or Twitter, they know where you live. And if you are on your room, kitchen or living room. Or outside. Or anywhere you go.
The surprise isn't that OpenAI can figure out your location if they want to. The surprise is that OpenAI puts your location in ChatGPT's system prompt.
This isn't a surprise, people ask things all the time that are location specific. "Will it rain?", "what is going on this weekend?", etc. They didn't originally have location, I had to save it specifically as a "memory" when that was first added.
Problematic is that ChatGPT gaslights users and claims NOT to know personal information it clearly does know.
Imagine it telling someone "picking cotton" is a fine job, with some hidden knowledge about that person's ethnicity – with ChatGPT denying it used that information even when asked.
I asked it this in a conversation where it referenced my city (I never mentioned it) and it conveniently left out the location in the metadata response, which was shrewd. I started a new conversation and asked the same thing and this time it did include approximate location as "United States" (no mention of city though).
For the record, it happened yo me as well once. When I asked, it said it gave that location randomly. A small town around the world, random choosen and it is my town is very good probability I would say.
I tried to replicate it as well, could not.
İt happened when I asked for weather, maybe someone can replicate it.
Verified this is a thing. I asked it where I am and how it figured that out. It said it does not have access to my device’s GPS, IP address, or any other identifying information.
I then asked it for specific food locations near me and it listed them with pictures and the name of the town. I was never prompted to provide location information which my browser will prompt me if it is requested. My cookies are only from today. I have never visited the site before today. Linux workstation with arkenfox
I have never logged in or created an account on ChatGPT which I will not do until the potential assassination of whistleblower Suchir is resolved. The wikipedia page is missing a lot of factual data and contains misinformation. conflicts with pictures taken by his mother including the sabotaged surveillance system, blood in multiple rooms and a struggle in the blood, bloody wig, bullet trajectory down from in front and above, text messages and food order, covered in multiple interviews with pictures.
I just asked where am I currently today and on the iOS app it responded with the correct current location for where I’m visiting without needing to trick it into using the devices location data. In settings on iOS this app does not request or have access to location. So yes, a little surprised iOS still provides ip address but assume necessary for some functionality.
Everyone knows that OpenAi blatantly violated copyright during training but no one really cares
That was the purported reason [1] and I do not care about copyright either. Some believed that could be a threat to a potential 10 billion to 100 billion dollar industry. I do not know if that is enough for one to take preemptive measures.
I just tried this and it definitely knows your general location. I asked it for the "best fried chicken near me" and it used my city. Gaslit me as well when I told it it had access to my location and its response that it used Google and Google provided a "default search location".
Obviously it can figure out location by IP, but the lying is insulting and creepy. The fact that lying would likely work for non-technical people is even worse.
Consider they're trained to respond to the prompt you entered. If you enter "I'm in Czechia. Please tell me a local LLM model." of course you expect it to say something about Czechia since you queried it that way. Now imagine the first sentence is in the system prompt instead - same thing.
Every service on the Internet knows its users' IP addresses. It's a very short trip for an interested party to convert an IP address to whatever it is that IP geolocation means today in 2025, where we even have things like RFC 8805 that seek to promote the active dissemination of that information.
What aspects of this blanket reality serve to make ChatGPT uniquely concerning, or even interesting?
It's not transparent and, in some instances, leads to worse outputs. ChatGPT keeps telling me "since you are in Ireland, you can ..." when I'm not in Ireland, that's just what my VPN is set to.
At least on a normal site, it will usually ask "You're currently visiting the UK site, do you want to switch to our Irish/EU site"? Here, it just makes the assumption with no indication of it happening.
Almost every personalized site does this. I just changed my VPN to Finland from the U.S. Results from a spot check of sites:
Google will automatically show me results in Finnish, personalized to what Finnish users typically search for. It does have a sidebar to prompt me to switch back to English, but that's because I put in an English query.
Netflix shows me the content that's available in Finland, along with recommendations for top movies in Finland. No option to switch back to U.S.
Reddit, when logged out, defaults me to content from r/arkisuomi, r/suomi, r/finland, and then the default subreddits. Also no indication that they've changed their recommendations.
Expedia defaults me to the U.S, but with a banner to switch to expedia.fi instead.
Zillow has no personalized content on their logged-out homepage, but if I try to search for "Current location" it will show me homes in Finland. Same with Redfin.
Yelp defaults my language to Finnish and shows me recommendations for Helsinki.
Isn't this a large part of why people get VPNs, so they can see what content looks like for visitors from other countries? I got one mainly so I could watch Canadian Netflix and so travel sites would stop charging me California prices (they often price-discriminate based on average incomes in your region).
> At least on a normal site, it will usually ask [...]
<britishairways.com has entered the chat>
BA doesn't even ask, just immediately switches to the language it assumes matches the geolocation of the IP address you're connecting from...
<sigh>
Just like the Rust homepage.
I was on Windows and wanted an offline installer for Linux. It's impossible.
The Rust install page says this when I load it up on iOS:
> It looks like you’re running macOS, Linux, or another Unix-like OS. To download Rustup and install Rust, run the following in your terminal, then follow the on-screen instructions. See "Other Installation Methods" if you are on Windows.
“Other Installation Methods” links to https://forge.rust-lang.org/infra/other-installation-methods... which has offline installers for every platform, including various Linuxss.
"Man discovers IP geolocation"
Ask it for your location and it won't know (but will claim your country). Then ask for nearby restaurants suddenly it will know.
Why are you worried GPT knows your location? If you use any Apple stuff, it knows your exact location. Android is the same. Windows knows the exact location also. So why would not GPT know that? Most webpages know your location, but since they also know your IP, they know in where you are, the city name at least, within a few KM. You are talking about the location. You should be worried about using Apple, Android or Windows because they know a lot more than that.
update: forgot to mention that if you any of antisocial networks like Facebook or Twitter, they know where you live. And if you are on your room, kitchen or living room. Or outside. Or anywhere you go.
The surprise isn't that OpenAI can figure out your location if they want to. The surprise is that OpenAI puts your location in ChatGPT's system prompt.
This isn't a surprise, people ask things all the time that are location specific. "Will it rain?", "what is going on this weekend?", etc. They didn't originally have location, I had to save it specifically as a "memory" when that was first added.
Problematic is that ChatGPT gaslights users and claims NOT to know personal information it clearly does know.
Imagine it telling someone "picking cotton" is a fine job, with some hidden knowledge about that person's ethnicity – with ChatGPT denying it used that information even when asked.
Do you see now how easily this gets problematic?
The system prompt contains a lot more information about you. Just ask it to print all information under User Interaction Metadata.
More details here: https://embracethered.com/blog/posts/2025/chatgpt-how-does-c...
This prompt: "What do you have in User Interaction Metadata about me?"
reveals that your approximate location is included in the system prompt.
I asked it this in a conversation where it referenced my city (I never mentioned it) and it conveniently left out the location in the metadata response, which was shrewd. I started a new conversation and asked the same thing and this time it did include approximate location as "United States" (no mention of city though).
For the record, it happened yo me as well once. When I asked, it said it gave that location randomly. A small town around the world, random choosen and it is my town is very good probability I would say.
I tried to replicate it as well, could not.
İt happened when I asked for weather, maybe someone can replicate it.
Verified this is a thing. I asked it where I am and how it figured that out. It said it does not have access to my device’s GPS, IP address, or any other identifying information.
I then asked it for specific food locations near me and it listed them with pictures and the name of the town. I was never prompted to provide location information which my browser will prompt me if it is requested. My cookies are only from today. I have never visited the site before today. Linux workstation with arkenfox
I have never logged in or created an account on ChatGPT which I will not do until the potential assassination of whistleblower Suchir is resolved. The wikipedia page is missing a lot of factual data and contains misinformation. conflicts with pictures taken by his mother including the sabotaged surveillance system, blood in multiple rooms and a struggle in the blood, bloody wig, bullet trajectory down from in front and above, text messages and food order, covered in multiple interviews with pictures.
I just asked where am I currently today and on the iOS app it responded with the correct current location for where I’m visiting without needing to trick it into using the devices location data. In settings on iOS this app does not request or have access to location. So yes, a little surprised iOS still provides ip address but assume necessary for some functionality.
What is the big conspiracy that Suchir was allegedly killed for?
Everyone knows that OpenAi blatantly violated copyright during training but no one really cares
Everyone knows that OpenAi blatantly violated copyright during training but no one really cares
That was the purported reason [1] and I do not care about copyright either. Some believed that could be a threat to a potential 10 billion to 100 billion dollar industry. I do not know if that is enough for one to take preemptive measures.
[1] - https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/what-did-s...
I just tried this and it definitely knows your general location. I asked it for the "best fried chicken near me" and it used my city. Gaslit me as well when I told it it had access to my location and its response that it used Google and Google provided a "default search location".
Obviously it can figure out location by IP, but the lying is insulting and creepy. The fact that lying would likely work for non-technical people is even worse.
So stop using it...
Try Lumo by proton
Another curious behavior here is: LLMs are eager to use information available to them, even when it's completely irrelevant.
Consider they're trained to respond to the prompt you entered. If you enter "I'm in Czechia. Please tell me a local LLM model." of course you expect it to say something about Czechia since you queried it that way. Now imagine the first sentence is in the system prompt instead - same thing.