> Abstract: Discoveries of fundamental limits for the rates of physical processes, from the speed of light to the Lieb–Robinson bound for information propagation [1,2], often lead to breakthroughs in the understanding of the underlying physics. Here we observe such a limit for a paradigmatic many-body phenomenon, the spreading of coherence during the formation of a weakly interacting Bose–Einstein condensate [...]. We study condensate formation in an isolated homogeneous atomic gas [...] that is initially far from equilibrium, in an incoherent low-energy state, and condenses as it relaxes towards equilibrium. Tuning the interatomic interactions that drive condensation, we show that the spreading of coherence through the system is initially slower for weaker interactions and faster for stronger ones, but always eventually reaches the same limit, at which the square of the coherence length grows at a universal rate given by the ratio of Planck’s constant and the particle mass, or, equivalently, by the quantum of velocity circulation associated with a quantum vortex. These observations are robust to changes in the initial state, the gas density, and the system size. Our results provide benchmarks for theories of universality far from equilibrium [...], are relevant for quantum technologies that rely on large-scale coherence, and invite similar measurements in other systems.
"A universal speed limit for spreading of coherence" (2025) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09735-z :
> Abstract: Discoveries of fundamental limits for the rates of physical processes, from the speed of light to the Lieb–Robinson bound for information propagation [1,2], often lead to breakthroughs in the understanding of the underlying physics. Here we observe such a limit for a paradigmatic many-body phenomenon, the spreading of coherence during the formation of a weakly interacting Bose–Einstein condensate [...]. We study condensate formation in an isolated homogeneous atomic gas [...] that is initially far from equilibrium, in an incoherent low-energy state, and condenses as it relaxes towards equilibrium. Tuning the interatomic interactions that drive condensation, we show that the spreading of coherence through the system is initially slower for weaker interactions and faster for stronger ones, but always eventually reaches the same limit, at which the square of the coherence length grows at a universal rate given by the ratio of Planck’s constant and the particle mass, or, equivalently, by the quantum of velocity circulation associated with a quantum vortex. These observations are robust to changes in the initial state, the gas density, and the system size. Our results provide benchmarks for theories of universality far from equilibrium [...], are relevant for quantum technologies that rely on large-scale coherence, and invite similar measurements in other systems.
The space changes, so GR and the speed of light are preserved.
"Slow and fast light in plasma using optical wave mixing" (2021) https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.12... .. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=94797501996846831... :
> We show the first experimental demonstration of slow and fast light in a plasma, measuring group velocities between 0.12c and −0.34c .
Also, photons can be FTL (relative to an outside observer) in dielectrics;
> LightSlinger antennae are FTL within the dielectric, but the EMR is not FTL; from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37342016
Also, do these findings apply to this post-Fourier model of thermal spreading limits at material interfaces given phase ? From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45921309 :
> ScholarlyArticle: "Time-domain theory of transient heat conduction in the local limit" (2025) https://journals.aps.org/prb/abstract/10.1103/p8wg-p1j3
> NewsArticle: "From engines to nanochips: Physicists redefine how heat really moves" (2025-10) https://phys.org/news/2025-10-nanochips-physicists-redefine....