Put the parameters into the url so searches can be bookmarked, like zip codes, terms, filters, and other aspects can be shared easily as well.
Description search both include (like i7, 16GB) which is good for electronics and exclude for example exclude "repair" or "needs repair" which is helpful for many things.
Category specific filters, vehicle millage range, year
Keywords classification filters like pickup, delivery, payment methods, how many days you have to pay if known, etc.
You are probably already thinking along these lines for some of them, just an encouragement to implement. Yes categorization/filters can be fuzzy(commas, which word or plurals used, etc), so feel free to put the [beta] or [experimental] tag until a recipe that gets most of the stuff works.
Thanks for building this, I bookmarked it and already shared it with a few friends.
RSS Feeds of searches would be great, I know alerts exist, but for this community being able to get data through alternative methods, especially RSS is very appreciated.
it's not so much for agents as for getting fresh deals right in your browser sidebar (Zen Browser live folders, for example) or a dedicated RSS reader app (like Newsflash)
I only read HN through Zen Browser sidebar and, rarely, Telegram at this point. everything else - friends' blogs, Codeberg/Tangled/GitHub activity - only as new tabs on the left side of the screen.
Very kind of you - sharing this has definitely highlighted some of the rough edges :) Search / Alert accuracy is one big thing I need to make better, and I will take note of these suggestions.
Hi, yes, my apologies. One thing I'm currently fixing is the workflow for bringing in many of the listings that sites like GovDeals cover but are not part of the available APIs. Scraping sites like GovDeals is kind of shady and not something I want to do, so I am ingesting and cleaning a lot of data from state/government websites myself. While I fix that, I've removed those references from the site.
This is a real public service. More people can find better deals, this increases the pool of bidders, taxpayers will get more money for the auction. Discoverability is hugely important to these auctions.
Thank you. Yes, you could definitely say that I'm undermining a personal arbitrage advantage on this corner of the Internet, but I couldn't resist trying to "fix" it and better surface all of these woefully inefficient mini-marketplaces.
Government auctions are interesting. Not a lot of information on pricing.
My dad bid on multiple LCVPs, guessing on a reasonable price for them based on what the engines were worth.
Fortunately he only won one of them. If all 4 had shown up at our house, my mom would have killed him.
Interesting aside, the casting date on the transmission housing was 1945 - but the hulls were built in 1967. Those Detroit Diesel 6-71s engines / transmissions last a long time!
Just keep in mind if you're providing value the scrapers will soon appear to claim it for themselves... look at what Craigslist does to protect their data though you want all traffic as you get off the ground.
Pretty cool. But a lot of it doesn't really work once you click into a particular state. For example, from this page, if you click on "All auctions in Georgia", it lists all auctions in the country. Or if you click on "electronics", it doesn't show just electronics in Georgia.
Thanks for surfacing this. Not sure why this is breaking, but I am looking into it and will fix it as soon as I can.
Update: This should now be working the intended way (ie for Georgia, showing only GA results when you click out, and filtering for the category within GA).
Very interesting project! Can anyone comment on what the buying process is like? Specifically if there are any weird hoops to jump through or if it's a normal account signup and payment process. Is delivery available or do these need to be picked up in person?
It varies by state and authority. The majority require in-person pickup; for properties there is often longer, sometimes multi-stage bidding process (where the auctioneer periodically reviews current bids, and decides whether any are acceptable before moving to the next stage).
There are deals to be found on these auction sites. However, unless you are prepared to visit the site where the auction items are physically stored, it is a bit of a "pig in a poke" situation. In my case, I estimate between 5% and 10% of the items I buy are defective (with no refunds) so bid accordingly.
e.g. from one auction:
Removal Responsibilities: The successful bidder is solely responsible for all aspects of removal, including packing, crating, banding, loading, and shipping. The agency will not provide assistance.
Authorized Third-Party Removal: The authorized third-party agent must present a Letter of Authorization from the high bidder (see terms and conditions for details), a copy of the purchaser's receipt, and a valid photo ID at the time of removal.
Special Pickup Requirements: You are required to provide your last and first name along with the specific date and time to Mimi.quach@noaa.gov for pickup. This information is required to grant you access to NOAA Building 33. Building hours are Monday through Friday, 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM.
Loading Assistance: Staff will be available to help load the item onto your vehicle.
Feature request: I'd love to be able to share a search results page with a friend. If you update the url to include the location or zip code I am searching for (ex: https://www.govauctions.app/feed/12345) this would be possible.
I like the project! Echoing that I'm seeing issues with anything from GovDeals surfacing in my area, I know there's a couple hundred auctions and only GSA Auctions came up.
Additionally, there's definitely some funkiness when it comes to how it handles current price/bid, I don't know if I saw any that were actually reporting the correct price it was currently at, always was under reported.
Thanks for sharing though, going to keep an eye on this!
Appreciate it. Some of the bugs I have been able to fix today, but these listings actually come from diverse and in some cases hard and time-consuming to parse sources. I have no intention of scraping govdeals or anything like that, which means I have to do my own ingestion and cleaning of the data.
Can't speak for every listing on here, but depending on the state and type of auction there can be lots of issues that you have to be aware of, like physical issues with the property itself, liens on the property, and even potentially people occupying the property who may have defaulted through things like not paying their property tax, but not yet left after the state has technically 'seized' it.
Well, HUD wants to sell it to someone who intends to live in it, "owner occupied", and most of them are garbage. Some from the pictures are almost certainly condemned/require significant repair before it could be considered safe for occupancy. So you need someone willing to invest the time and money a flipper or real estate investor would, to live in a really cruddy house.
In short, the people who have the money to fix it want to live somewhere nicer.
Let me filter and alert based on a distance, not just sort. e.g. "Lathe" within 100 miles of Baltimore. GovDeals lets you do this, but their distance filter is very inaccurate.
Not clear where to enter the ZIP code, though. The landing page lets you select a State, but no input field for anything more narrow than that. Cool site though, I could get into it, since I love estate sales and other places to get cheap junk.
Happy to. This is a side-project, so I spun it up pretty quickly using Next.js and Tailwind, and it is hosted on Vercel right now.
I use a few free government APIs for the data (listed on the site, you can sign up for a key for free for all of them I think), plus a custom workflow I built that parses and ingests many other online auctions that states are mandated to make public, but which aren't part of any API or data pipeline I could find.
Expected load - about 1/10 of what it has seen today :) I had to scramble to make things more robust once this post became more popular, and am now looking at a few different options for hosting.
This was not really intended as a business - there is a very light "subscription" option right now, for users who want to create many alerts. I mainly wanted to try and fix this problem, share the solution, and get some feedback.
Once an item clicked back button returns you to a reset listing, so you cannot click and item go back and retain the last position you were looking at (tested on iPhone)
It is truly a weird and wonderful world of things you can buy out there. Last year I contemplated buying a 100-tonne crane in New Jersey, which was going for about $5,000. The only issue was that you had to go pick it up yourself...
I saw someone in court getting a lengthy for stealing all the enormous counterweights from cranes and taking them for their scrap metal value. Apparently they are very expensive.
A lot of auctions are like that. The party making the listing has no clue about the items, and exposes themself to liability if they guess wrong, so it's better to just put no information at all.
Unlike eBay, with traditional auctions, all the responsibility for "inspection" lies on the bidder -- you're expected to visit the item during the listed inspection times, if there are any, and make your own judgment of its worth. If there's no inspection period, then you're guessing blind with everyone else.
In this case, click through to the GSA Auctions listing, and scroll down to see the "property custodian", give them a call during the hours listed above on the page, and haul your butt out there to inspect the item.
Suggestions:
Put the parameters into the url so searches can be bookmarked, like zip codes, terms, filters, and other aspects can be shared easily as well.
Description search both include (like i7, 16GB) which is good for electronics and exclude for example exclude "repair" or "needs repair" which is helpful for many things.
Category specific filters, vehicle millage range, year
Keywords classification filters like pickup, delivery, payment methods, how many days you have to pay if known, etc.
You are probably already thinking along these lines for some of them, just an encouragement to implement. Yes categorization/filters can be fuzzy(commas, which word or plurals used, etc), so feel free to put the [beta] or [experimental] tag until a recipe that gets most of the stuff works.
Thanks for building this, I bookmarked it and already shared it with a few friends.
I second the search parameters in URL. RSS feed of search page would also be great.
RSS Feeds of searches would be great, I know alerts exist, but for this community being able to get data through alternative methods, especially RSS is very appreciated.
Noted. Crazy that as I was building this I was wondering whether I should be designing it as much for agent browsing as for humans.
Update: search params are now passed into the URL
it's not so much for agents as for getting fresh deals right in your browser sidebar (Zen Browser live folders, for example) or a dedicated RSS reader app (like Newsflash)
I only read HN through Zen Browser sidebar and, rarely, Telegram at this point. everything else - friends' blogs, Codeberg/Tangled/GitHub activity - only as new tabs on the left side of the screen.
Consider me a +1 for rss. That's one thing GovDeals is sorely missing.
Very kind of you - sharing this has definitely highlighted some of the rough edges :) Search / Alert accuracy is one big thing I need to make better, and I will take note of these suggestions.
The title claims to search every platform but I don't see any evidence of either https://www.govdeals.com/ or https://www.publicsurplus.com/ which are probably the biggest government auction sites.
Hi, yes, my apologies. One thing I'm currently fixing is the workflow for bringing in many of the listings that sites like GovDeals cover but are not part of the available APIs. Scraping sites like GovDeals is kind of shady and not something I want to do, so I am ingesting and cleaning a lot of data from state/government websites myself. While I fix that, I've removed those references from the site.
Indexing GovDeals is not shady. You are just providing links to their website via search. That's how Google works.
This is a real public service. More people can find better deals, this increases the pool of bidders, taxpayers will get more money for the auction. Discoverability is hugely important to these auctions.
Thank you. Yes, you could definitely say that I'm undermining a personal arbitrage advantage on this corner of the Internet, but I couldn't resist trying to "fix" it and better surface all of these woefully inefficient mini-marketplaces.
Government auctions are interesting. Not a lot of information on pricing.
My dad bid on multiple LCVPs, guessing on a reasonable price for them based on what the engines were worth.
Fortunately he only won one of them. If all 4 had shown up at our house, my mom would have killed him.
Interesting aside, the casting date on the transmission housing was 1945 - but the hulls were built in 1967. Those Detroit Diesel 6-71s engines / transmissions last a long time!
this is a fascinating example of how I'm interested in what any of this meant, but not interested enough to look it up, bravo!
I had no idea one could buy a Blackhawk for $1.5M
It's the fuel cost that gets you...
There are Chinooks with no bids as of yet....as well as a Bombardier Challenger
Just keep in mind if you're providing value the scrapers will soon appear to claim it for themselves... look at what Craigslist does to protect their data though you want all traffic as you get off the ground.
Thanks, appreciate the advice.
Love this. I have the same affliction. https://www.publicsurplus.com/ if you're taking requests.
Thanks, definitely on my to-do list.
Pretty cool. But a lot of it doesn't really work once you click into a particular state. For example, from this page, if you click on "All auctions in Georgia", it lists all auctions in the country. Or if you click on "electronics", it doesn't show just electronics in Georgia.
https://www.govauctions.app/auctions/georgia
Thanks for surfacing this. Not sure why this is breaking, but I am looking into it and will fix it as soon as I can.
Update: This should now be working the intended way (ie for Georgia, showing only GA results when you click out, and filtering for the category within GA).
It's still a bit wonky. When I visit https://www.govauctions.app/feed?zip=10003&distance=50 I see items in AL and AZ, which are many hundreds of miles away from 10003 (NYC).
Ok, I'll dig into this more.
Doesn't seem accurate considering GovDeals has auctions in NY, NJ and CT listed but your website has nothing.
Yes, there's an issue with some of the auctions that are on GovDeals - I've removed all the references to those while I try and fix them.
Very interesting project! Can anyone comment on what the buying process is like? Specifically if there are any weird hoops to jump through or if it's a normal account signup and payment process. Is delivery available or do these need to be picked up in person?
It varies by state and authority. The majority require in-person pickup; for properties there is often longer, sometimes multi-stage bidding process (where the auctioneer periodically reviews current bids, and decides whether any are acceptable before moving to the next stage).
There are deals to be found on these auction sites. However, unless you are prepared to visit the site where the auction items are physically stored, it is a bit of a "pig in a poke" situation. In my case, I estimate between 5% and 10% of the items I buy are defective (with no refunds) so bid accordingly.
The ones I’ve looked at need to be picked up in person, sometimes with very short deadlines.
e.g. from one auction: Removal Responsibilities: The successful bidder is solely responsible for all aspects of removal, including packing, crating, banding, loading, and shipping. The agency will not provide assistance.
Authorized Third-Party Removal: The authorized third-party agent must present a Letter of Authorization from the high bidder (see terms and conditions for details), a copy of the purchaser's receipt, and a valid photo ID at the time of removal.
Special Pickup Requirements: You are required to provide your last and first name along with the specific date and time to Mimi.quach@noaa.gov for pickup. This information is required to grant you access to NOAA Building 33. Building hours are Monday through Friday, 8:00 AM to 3:00 PM.
Loading Assistance: Staff will be available to help load the item onto your vehicle.
Pickup within 15 business days.
If you want to see how quickly this can trap you in, watch the William Osman 2 channel on YouTube.
What does this mean?
Will check it out once I fix a bunch the bugs people are surfacing :-)
Thanks for building this!
Feature request: I'd love to be able to share a search results page with a friend. If you update the url to include the location or zip code I am searching for (ex: https://www.govauctions.app/feed/12345) this would be possible.
I believe this should now be working. Thanks for the suggestion.
Thank you! Just realized someone else recommended this a hour ago as well, oops.
I like the project! Echoing that I'm seeing issues with anything from GovDeals surfacing in my area, I know there's a couple hundred auctions and only GSA Auctions came up.
Additionally, there's definitely some funkiness when it comes to how it handles current price/bid, I don't know if I saw any that were actually reporting the correct price it was currently at, always was under reported.
Thanks for sharing though, going to keep an eye on this!
Appreciate it. Some of the bugs I have been able to fix today, but these listings actually come from diverse and in some cases hard and time-consuming to parse sources. I have no intention of scraping govdeals or anything like that, which means I have to do my own ingestion and cleaning of the data.
What is the catch with these real estate auctions? Certainly a $60k house is a deal even if it had a bad roof full of asbestos.
Can't speak for every listing on here, but depending on the state and type of auction there can be lots of issues that you have to be aware of, like physical issues with the property itself, liens on the property, and even potentially people occupying the property who may have defaulted through things like not paying their property tax, but not yet left after the state has technically 'seized' it.
Where do you live? You can buy reasonably crappy houses all over the USA in rural areas for $5K, $10K all day.
Well, HUD wants to sell it to someone who intends to live in it, "owner occupied", and most of them are garbage. Some from the pictures are almost certainly condemned/require significant repair before it could be considered safe for occupancy. So you need someone willing to invest the time and money a flipper or real estate investor would, to live in a really cruddy house.
In short, the people who have the money to fix it want to live somewhere nicer.
Feature request:
Let me filter and alert based on a distance, not just sort. e.g. "Lathe" within 100 miles of Baltimore. GovDeals lets you do this, but their distance filter is very inaccurate.
You should now see this option when you create an alert - within 50/100/500 miles of a given ZIP.
Not clear where to enter the ZIP code, though. The landing page lets you select a State, but no input field for anything more narrow than that. Cool site though, I could get into it, since I love estate sales and other places to get cheap junk.
That’s nice. Care to write technical write up? What’s the tech stack, expected load, are you planning to monetize it, etc.?
Happy to. This is a side-project, so I spun it up pretty quickly using Next.js and Tailwind, and it is hosted on Vercel right now.
I use a few free government APIs for the data (listed on the site, you can sign up for a key for free for all of them I think), plus a custom workflow I built that parses and ingests many other online auctions that states are mandated to make public, but which aren't part of any API or data pipeline I could find.
Expected load - about 1/10 of what it has seen today :) I had to scramble to make things more robust once this post became more popular, and am now looking at a few different options for hosting.
This was not really intended as a business - there is a very light "subscription" option right now, for users who want to create many alerts. I mainly wanted to try and fix this problem, share the solution, and get some feedback.
Good stuff,
Once an item clicked back button returns you to a reset listing, so you cannot click and item go back and retain the last position you were looking at (tested on iPhone)
Update: this should be working now.
Seems to be missing stuff.
I searched "volkswagen" on govdeals and found a lot of vehicles listed but nothing on this site.
Thank you. Looks like other people are having an issue finding these - I'm going to take the reference to these listings down until I can fix it.
The guides mention govdeals. But I don't see them, for instance the UC davis bike auctions are not included.
Thanks. Looks like there is an issue with these listings right now - working on it.
definitely getting updates on your searches would be cool.
> right now for example San Diego DHS is selling 26 tons of lead shot, with bidding starting at $1,000
If that's not enough for you then there's another auction too! https://www.govauctions.app/auction/gsa-4-1-QSC-I-26-226-002
It is truly a weird and wonderful world of things you can buy out there. Last year I contemplated buying a 100-tonne crane in New Jersey, which was going for about $5,000. The only issue was that you had to go pick it up yourself...
I saw someone in court getting a lengthy for stealing all the enormous counterweights from cranes and taking them for their scrap metal value. Apparently they are very expensive.
I am looking for a 60 ft+ steel ship if you come across one.
There is a 25ft one currently at $1,550 in Montana, made from steel and comes with its own trailer! - https://www.govauctions.app/auction/gsa-3-1-QSC-I-26-284-021
[Some] data seems to be wrong/stale, eg your website says no bids here, but underlying gov auction site lists a bid:
https://www.govauctions.app/auction/gsa-4-1-QSC-I-26-240-001
Will look into this, I have seen some issues where the API data is not reflective of the current bid status.
The server pallet caught my attention. I wish it listed some of the basic specs, but current bid is $55.
https://www.govauctions.app/auction/gsa-1-1-QSC-I-26-148-031
A lot of auctions are like that. The party making the listing has no clue about the items, and exposes themself to liability if they guess wrong, so it's better to just put no information at all.
Unlike eBay, with traditional auctions, all the responsibility for "inspection" lies on the bidder -- you're expected to visit the item during the listed inspection times, if there are any, and make your own judgment of its worth. If there's no inspection period, then you're guessing blind with everyone else.
In this case, click through to the GSA Auctions listing, and scroll down to see the "property custodian", give them a call during the hours listed above on the page, and haul your butt out there to inspect the item.
@dang player_piano is obviously a bot.
Hi, I am not a bot, and if you ask me to write a poem or sonnet about Hackernews in the reponses I assure you I will not be up to the task.
Pet hate - websites that assume the whole internet|World starts and ends at the borders of USA.
If you're going to share a local website on a global site like HN at least mention the locality!?