An update after the feedback here:
I added ATMOS, a BIOS-style command layer for the browser version of shii•haa:
https://shiihaa.app/atmos/
It explains how to open the interface: no login requirements, no availability issues.
Thanks again to everyone. It helped shape the interface.
Audio normalizing seems to be quite hard for this kind of use. I tried this 20 yrs ago with parts of a (mouse-)pointer device, a rigid nylon strap around the chest and 8 cm of flexible length in between. Mouse pointer wheel (one dimension only) was driven by change of length. For some hours of fiddling it was quite reliable.
That`s very cool. I chose the phone mic, because everybody already has one, no extra device needed. The downside is normalization: from room noise to breathing style. I do use an ML layer to deal with some of these variations but only after basic signal checks. The hard part is to decide when the microphone signal is too ambiguous to use at all...
Exactly the kind of use I don`t want to support. I do not upload raw audio or speech and I don`t try to identify individuals from the signal. The app was built for voluntary feedback on mood and rhythm.
Very interesting idea, I hope you can progress this into a well working, proven application.
I tried to do something very similar a year or 2 ago, more directed towards meditation. (Ie as a helper that uses breath to detect a wandering mind). A microphone in itself wasn't sufficient in my case, and detection was quite hard. I ended up using wired earbuds with microphones.
Nice focus as well, less scoring and more signal. All the best in your project!
Thank you so much for your kind words. The microphone is the hard part, so I am trying to learn where the limits are instead of just pretending they do not exist...
What happened to your project?
Lungy looks really nice. With shiihaa I am exploring a different direction: silent biofeedback. microphone-based breathing feedback that tries not to become the object of attention but instead supports self-awarness and introspection.
Thanks for catching this. The iOS app is currently blocked in Germany (and some other EU countries) because DSA information is still pending. Hopefully soon. Android is available there.
The biofeedback can be accessed via browser without creating an account. The link and details are in the repo README.
Great feedback, thank you. The browser version still depends on the device/browser mic chain and it looks like the threshold is too strict on some iPhone/Safari setups. I`ll look into this case. It should not get stuck at signal too weak if the room is silent and breathing clearly audible.
Sounds interesting. Unfortunately not available in my country in the Android app store. I live in The Netherlands. If you're looking for feedback, you might want to double check this :)
An update after the feedback here: I added ATMOS, a BIOS-style command layer for the browser version of shii•haa: https://shiihaa.app/atmos/ It explains how to open the interface: no login requirements, no availability issues. Thanks again to everyone. It helped shape the interface.
Audio normalizing seems to be quite hard for this kind of use. I tried this 20 yrs ago with parts of a (mouse-)pointer device, a rigid nylon strap around the chest and 8 cm of flexible length in between. Mouse pointer wheel (one dimension only) was driven by change of length. For some hours of fiddling it was quite reliable.
That`s very cool. I chose the phone mic, because everybody already has one, no extra device needed. The downside is normalization: from room noise to breathing style. I do use an ML layer to deal with some of these variations but only after basic signal checks. The hard part is to decide when the microphone signal is too ambiguous to use at all...
What about in call centre situations to monitor employees or customers’ emotional states, or fingerprinting customers?
Exactly the kind of use I don`t want to support. I do not upload raw audio or speech and I don`t try to identify individuals from the signal. The app was built for voluntary feedback on mood and rhythm.
Very interesting idea, I hope you can progress this into a well working, proven application.
I tried to do something very similar a year or 2 ago, more directed towards meditation. (Ie as a helper that uses breath to detect a wandering mind). A microphone in itself wasn't sufficient in my case, and detection was quite hard. I ended up using wired earbuds with microphones.
Nice focus as well, less scoring and more signal. All the best in your project!
Thank you so much for your kind words. The microphone is the hard part, so I am trying to learn where the limits are instead of just pretending they do not exist... What happened to your project?
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lungy-breathing-exercises/id15...
Lungy looks really nice. With shiihaa I am exploring a different direction: silent biofeedback. microphone-based breathing feedback that tries not to become the object of attention but instead supports self-awarness and introspection.
Sounds interesting. App not available in my region (iOS, Germany).
Thanks for catching this. The iOS app is currently blocked in Germany (and some other EU countries) because DSA information is still pending. Hopefully soon. Android is available there. The biofeedback can be accessed via browser without creating an account. The link and details are in the repo README.
Tried it on website but I always get Signal too weak, even if I breathe heavily, in an otherwise silent room. iPhone 13mini.
Great feedback, thank you. The browser version still depends on the device/browser mic chain and it looks like the threshold is too strict on some iPhone/Safari setups. I`ll look into this case. It should not get stuck at signal too weak if the room is silent and breathing clearly audible.
OT did GitHub change their default fonts? This MD file shows up "differently" than I am used to, today.
can you please review login requirement?
Sounds interesting. Unfortunately not available in my country in the Android app store. I live in The Netherlands. If you're looking for feedback, you might want to double check this :)
The Android app is now available in all Play Store countries except mainland China
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