On the one hand, I absolutely agree that we should try to measure and reduce verbosity that LLMs are slopping into our codebases.
On the other hand, the fact that Astra is "winning" this bench is not great signal for me, since imo Astra produces basically unreadable code. Astra plays code golf. My own revealed preference is that I'd rather have the excessive comments and tests of Claude rather than the inscrutability of Astra.
I keep going in between the two and I'm currently in an Astra season, deeply disliking the tone and modes of Claude.
I wonder if the two will diverge enough that this becomes the tab-vs-spaces/vim-vs-emacs of the LLM era and they'll manage to keep users moving over at some point.
On the one hand, I absolutely agree that we should try to measure and reduce verbosity that LLMs are slopping into our codebases.
On the other hand, the fact that Astra is "winning" this bench is not great signal for me, since imo Astra produces basically unreadable code. Astra plays code golf. My own revealed preference is that I'd rather have the excessive comments and tests of Claude rather than the inscrutability of Astra.
Yeah the issue is that while code that’s too verbose is bad, code that’s too terse is as well.
Astra codes like it has to pay by the keystroke (although in a way, it indeed does)
I keep going in between the two and I'm currently in an Astra season, deeply disliking the tone and modes of Claude.
I wonder if the two will diverge enough that this becomes the tab-vs-spaces/vim-vs-emacs of the LLM era and they'll manage to keep users moving over at some point.